TMPD

Commissioner Spies gave an instruction to terminate ad hoc services for Gubis, Triotic Protection Services and Mogalagadi Security but did not have legal authority as he was not part of the organizational structure.

“Commissioner Spies did not have legal authority to do so because in terms of TMPD organisational structure in place, Commissioner Spies position was not part of the structure.”

Commissioner Spies was accommodated onto the TMPD structure only after 4 June, and not via any resolution of council.

“It was only after the 4th of June that Commissioner Spies was accommodated on the structure of the TMPD and that accommodation still was not via any resolution of council.”

Ad hoc security services, not compliant with Standard Operating Procedures, cost the City or TMPD approximately 96 million Rand over six months.

“just to leave it at that, would have cost the City, or in particular the TMPD, 96 million”

Deputy Chief Dhlamini received a series of application receipts from Sergeant Nkosi related to trainees in the TMPD, indicating many applications received from various sources hoping for employment in the City.

“t o s a y t h e a p p l i c a t i o n r e c e i p t s t h a t S e r g e a n t N k o s i h a v e s e n t m e , I r e c e i v e d q u i t e a l o t o f t h e m f r o m v a r i o u s p e o p l e , f a m i l y , c o l l e a g u e s , f r i e n d s , a n d s o f o r t h , t o s a y , p e r h a p s , c a n y o u a s s i s t w i t h t h i s , w i t h t h e h o p e o f s e c u r i n g e m p l o y m e n t i n t h e C i t y . S o I r e c e i v e d q u i t e a l o t o f t h e m .”

The taxi industry is alleged to be linked with organised crime and efforts to infiltrate the SAPS and TMPD, introducing investigation questions about Deputy Chief's role in the taxi industry.

“Investigating all allegations of people who are linked to the taxi industry and are alleged to have been involved in organised crime and efforts to infiltrate the SAPS and the TMPD ... Your status as someone inside the TMPD and a taxi business operator raises questions.”

Deputy Chief Dhlamini states he never had an interest nor responded to Sergeant Nkosi regarding a list of people connected to the TMPD evaluating bids.

“I never had interest in this. And I will take you through the steps to say, I never responded to Sergeant Nkosi.”

It was odd that Deputy Chief Dhlamini was being asked about a list of people while TMPD was evaluating the same bids.

“So, you accept that it was odd that you were being asked about a list of people while TMPD was evaluating the same bids?”

Deputy Chief Dhlamini admitted that Victor Kgopa is not a member of the TMPD department but works in Supply Chain Management.

“Victor Kgopa is not a member of the TMPD ... he is in Supply Chain Management.”

The deployment letter was intended for water and sanitation, not for TMPD (presumably Tshwane Metropolitan Police Department).

“this deployment letter was intended for water and sanitation , not for TMPD”

Risk assessments to identify sites needing additional security services are done by TMPD and relevant user departments; these assessments are included in the tender to cover all key and essential sites.

“Risk assessments are done by TMPD and the relevant user department, which identifies the need to add an additional site for security - related services. ... All key and essential sites would have been taken into account.”

Mr M N I S I is aware that Sergeant Nkosi inserted himself into the payment process by making a phone call, knowing who to call at TMPD to move the payment process forward.

“He picks up his phone. He makes a phone call. He knows who to call, and that is how he inserts himself in the payment processes of Tshwane which you then enable because you allow him to continue doing that.”

Sergeant Nkosi overheard the call between Mr Mnisi and Mr Mahlangu in early March before the 5th, and also called Deputy Chief Dhlamini on the same day, assisting the Deputy Chief with the matter.

“Sergeant Nkosi, as I discovered subsequently, took it upon himself to assist as he knew Deputy Chief, Mr Umashi Dhlamini of the TMPD.”

Budget increases mean making funds available up to the end of the month without increasing the overall annual budget threshold; it involves adjusting commitments within the approved allocation to TMPD.

“So sorry, SC. We are going to make monies available up until the end of the month. The budget is approved, we are not increasing the thresholds of the budget, we are not making any additional funds available, it is just increasing what could be committed at this stage on the funds that are already allocated and assigned to TMPD for the full financial year.”

Sergeant Nkosi has a relationship with Deputy Chief Dhlamini, who is responsible for support, services, and finance within TMPD, and by virtue of this relationship, Sergeant Nkosi knew Deputy Chief Dhlamini's roles and functions.

“I think Sergeant Nkosi has a relationship with Deputy Chief Dhlamini. He knew that he was a Deputy Chief responsible for support and services and finance within TMPD. So by virtue of their own relationship, he had known his roles and functions and what he does. That is how he knew.”

The process involving WhatsApp chats on 5 March does not align with the formal process described involving TMPD, SCM, and a third party, as the formal process involves checking and verifying documents, and properly authorizing services and invoices, which was not reflected in the rapid WhatsApp messages.

“this process that is in 143 in these WhatsApp chats and your participation in them, how does it accord with the process that you described yesterday, ja, that you described Tuesday, because all of it is happening on the 5th of March, and you describe a process that involves other parties, right, the, I think you said TMPD, SCM, and then there was a third. ... this process that is happening within hours does not seem to align with what you described yesterday.”

There was a deadlock or standoff between budget and funds availability between the department requesting and TMPD, with Deputy Chief Dhlamini engaging throughout the process, which had proceeded to the stage of generating purchase orders.

“There was a standoff now on which budget must be utilized to proceed with the generation of the purchase orders and which cost centre must be consumed. So, the entire process had happened at this stage. There was just a deadlock at this point, where budget and funds availability to a standoff between the department requested and TMPD. And Deputy Chief Dhlamini, throughout that process, was, of course, engaging. So, the process was already at this stage, at this point in time.”

The witness admitted that his role was limited to overseeing and assisting in payments but did not independently verify that internal processes and documents were in order for authorizing payments.

“that you use, without any indication that you satisfied yourself, that you are overseeing and authorizing, and I am using authorizing loosely. As an overseer, you are, you are assisting in payments to be made where all the necessary documents that are required and that contain the necessary information have, in fact, been submitted to the different people in the City, in the TMPD, including in your Finance, that must receive all of that information. I do not see that in these texts. I do not know if that, I think I spoke long. I think the summary of what I am saying is, it does not seem from these texts that you satisfied yourself independently, that your internal processes and documents are all in order.”

On 7 February, an email from Gubis Security Services to the CFO stated that invoices had not been paid despite having certified work done by relevant departments. The witness escalated this matter immediately to TMPD officials Mr Tshukudu Malatji and Cain without copying others.

“on the 7th of February, good day, CFO. We have this issue. Our invoices have not been paid. But within that is an attached letter, statement of account, and invoices, which appear to have been certified as correct and work done by the relevant departments. So what I do from there, also within GM23, as per my bundle, I escalate that further immediately. I say, TMPD, I directed that matter to Mr Tshukudu Malatji, who was on the email. I then cc Cain, or I direct to Cain. I do not cc him. I reply all. But replying all, I isolate the two individuals whom I think should be in a position to resolve this matter.”

On 24 June, a letter from Mr Spiess to Gubis Solutions requested the stoppage of ad hoc security services at sites identified by TMPD as Department of Water properties, stating these services had not been approved in terms of any written process, effective 1 July.

“a letter that Mr Spiess sends to Gubis Solutions... dated 24 June... It says: "Stoppage of ad hoc security services which have not been approved in terms of any written process." It says: "Kindly take note that all the sites mentioned on the attached Annexure A were identified by the TMPD as sites belonging to the Department of Water, on which ad hoc security services are being rendered without any approval base on written process. Therefore, the Tshwane Metro Police Department has taken a decision to stop these services with effect from 1 July."”

The termination letter was forwarded to Sergeant Nkosi on 26 June and the witness instructed Sergeant Nkosi to call Deputy Chief Dhlamini to ensure clarity and closure on the matter, as the TMPD had taken full authority and responsibility for the ad hoc security services.

“that is received on the 24th of June, and it is forwarded by you to Sergeant Nkosi on the 26th of June, and that is at page 331. And there at page 331, we see that on the 26th of June at 9:57, message time 7:57, you forward to Sergeant Nkosi the termination letter and then you say: "Call him, Mfowethu." Who did you want Sergeant Nkosi to call? Deputy Chief Dhlamini. Because we needed to close the loop on this matter. There needed not to be any further uncertainty. There was clarity on how the new internal control process that are implemented. Ad hoc security service was now fully assigned to the full control of TMPD. So this was me saying this matter has now reached finality. I just need to close on this effectively and ensure that all parties involved are clear and there will be no elements of uncertainty moving forward. The TMPD has taken full authority of this matter, and Water Department, if there is a need for any ad hoc services, they will communicate with TMPD.”

Mr Mnisi used telephonic communication with Deputy Chief Dhlamini as a faster way to resolve urgent finance related matters at year-end.

“The reason for me addressing this via telephonic mode of communication with Deputy Chief Dhlamini, it is pure responsibility. It is his responsibility at year-end to ensure that finance related matters from TMPD are dealt with accordingly... I preferred cellphone related communication, because it would transmit the matter faster.”

MR MNISI said the committee that decided to terminate services mandated that internal controls around ad hoc services be dealt with only by TMPD.

“That committee took a decision that internal controls around ad hoc services must only be dealt with by TMPD.”

Mr Mnisi said there were previous instances at TMPD where invoices were not reconciled for seven months, which he wanted to avoid recurring.

“We had seen that previously from TMPD that resulted in seven months' worth of invoices having been dealt with only in January... I needed to avoid a situation of that nature to reoccur. It was common practice that was occurring”

Mr Mnisi disputes that there was sufficient time (four or five days) to manage the financial year-end processes and asserts the complexity and scale of TMPD require more time.

“I respectfully disagree with you on the grounds that we had four days left and we do provide additional 10 days. TMPD is a big spending department... For them to reconcile all the status of accounts they might need way more than four days...”

While the TMPD1 bid was pending, Mr Mnisi involved Sergeant Nkosi in various matters related to the client department TMPD, including payment and termination of contracts with private service providers.

“While the TMPD1 bid was pending before Tshwane Council, you had also been assisting Sergeant Nkosi in relation to another bid of Ngaphesheya at that you say was for a different organ of state. Chair, involved him self. Like I previously said, I did not actively involve him. I did, however, on the second instance in terms of the termination, send him that communication, which I have agreed that it is a perception that I involved him in that instance, but I further did try to clarify that as well when I requested the direct contact details of the user department.”

The scenario where the TMPD was presented with an invoice from before the 24/25 financial year is considered extremely unlikely by Mr Mnisi.

“I accept that and I accept that this is a highly unlikely event”

Payment for a series of invoices for the 24/25 financial year before 30 June has not been made, and disputes exist about these invoices, which are a year-end issue regardless of contract termination.

“there are a series of invoices for the 24/25 financial year, invoices before the 30th of June, in respect of which there are disputes. Payment has not been made. That is an issue in relation to year-end that will be an issue whether termination has taken place or not.”

Dealing urgently with year-end invoice disputes in contracts like TMPD is justified by Mr Mnisi due to ongoing internal control issues.

“I accept that, which justifies my urgency in terms of dealing with the matter as well”

Mr Mnisi involved Sergeant Nkosi in processes relating to purchase orders and termination of private service providers contracted by TMPD but denies involvement on payment aspects.

“You had involved Sergeant Nkosi in a range of matters relating to the affairs of the client department, the TMPD, and these processes included processes relating to the payment and termination of private service providers contracted by the TMPD. I t is not a fact. Sorry, SC, you are factually incorrect, it is about payment. I involved him in terms of the purchase orders. No involvement whatsoever on payment aspects.”

Water and Sanitation department was engaging the TMPD (Tshwane Metropolitan Police Department) and TMPD was issuing deployment letters, but payment delays led to a standoff over cost centers and budget availability.

“water and sanitation were engaging TMPD and TMPD was issuing deployment letters. The standoff came when it was time to pay. Risk assessments were done between water and sanitation business units as well as TMPD when it is time to make a cost centre available for the payment. TMPD said, no, the budget that we have is sufficient for our programmes.”

The correct procedure for resolving payment issues starts with engagement with the relevant department that issued the deployment letter, in this case TMPD, and if unresolved escalates to procurement and then higher offices.

“From my perspective, whichever department has given them a deployment letter, if it is TMPD, they need to engage TMPD accordingly. So, in this instance, they would have gone back to the necessary people within APSS and make follow-ups or clarity-seeking questions from them... If they cannot, they should escalate it to procurement. And if they still cannot, they can then raise it with you.”

Deputy Chief Dlamini is responsible for support services and finance matters within TMPD, including processing payments for invoices once approved by relevant deployment or portfolio.

“Deputy Chief Dlamini is responsible for support services and for finance matters within TMPD. Meaning what falls within his portfolio is invoices that have been approved with the relevant deployment orders which have been certified as correct and work done. He can then take that forward in terms of processing the relevant payments.”

Matters related to outstanding payments require following proper processes and cannot be resolved by bypassing established protocols, including avoiding backdoor dealings.

“You cannot jump a process when escalating matters that are outstanding, Chair. That is the context of that. So, this is the individuals trying to use a backdoor to deal with this outstanding payment, whereas they are fully aware of the protocol that they had followed previously. So, they need to follow those processes. Once I am convinced that there is sufficient appropriate audit evidence, and the TMPD as well as supply chain management have either not dealt with this issue for whatever reason, I can then take it forward.”

The procedure for dealing with the previous financial year invoice requires raising it with TMPD, then if unresolved, escalating to Supply Chain Management, and finally escalating to the CFO as the last resort.

“As I understood it, it was they should first raise it with the TMPD. If they got no joy there, they should then raise it with Supply Chain Management. If they got no joy there, they should escalate it to you. So, you should be the last port of call, not the first.”

During the escalation process, they must demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that the invoice is due and payable, otherwise the CFO will not consider it without proper motivation and evidence from APSS.

“During the escalation process, they need to demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that this invoice is due and payable. Hence, I do not want us to leave the step that they needed to start with an APSS first. An APSS needs to make a motivation now. So, for me to even consider this, I would have to get the invoice from the service provider along with the motivation from APSS on why I should even think about considering an invoice from a previous financial year that is closed.”

Gubis was obligated to engage with TMPD and APSS to make necessary submissions and motivations for the invoice approval; the CFO cannot act until this process is done.

“Formally, the onus was on Gubis to make sure that they make the necessary submissions, and they make a motivation to APSS. APSS is a division within TMPD where DC Revo Spies is in charge. Once that has been approved, it would have automatically been transferred to Deputy Chief Dlamini, who is the Support Services and Finance Head within TMPD. That is when I can now assist in terms of taking the way forward.”

Payments must be made according to strict protocols and internal controls set by the City and TMPD and TMPD APSS must be involved in handling these payments.

“payments that need to be made , there must be sufficient protocol that has been adhered to and observed at all costs . Within those protocols is ensuring that the internal controls that the city has embarked on and set are followed to the T . Within that is handling the matter with TMPD and with TMPD APSS”

TMPD is likely to have evaluated the payment matter and found no probable case for payment, suggesting escalation and submission of proof of evidence if the matter is to be taken further.

“He, at this stage at TMPD, is most likely saying, I have evaluated this matter. I do not see any probable case for payment. You can escalate this matter if you want. It then respond and say, okay, that is the way. Let us see what they have. Let them escalate and let them submit POE now.”

The Prevention of Illegal Evictions Act (PIE Act) is legislation governing the tender related to illegal and invasion and illegal occupation of city's buildings.

“Illegal and invasion and illegal occupation of the City's buildings. ... That is TMPD competency ... That is PIE Act ... Prevent ion of Illegal Evictions Act.”

Mr Mnisi stated that he did not influence the appointment process of TMPD and was only providing oversight to ensure compliance.

“I did not influence the process within the appointment of TMPD ... My virtue at BAC was purely to provide oversight to ensure all compliance matters were adhered to, not to influence to play an oversight”

The Bid Evaluation Committee is multidisciplinary, comprising individuals from supply chain management, TMPD, user departments, and the departments regularly utilising the tender.

“BEC and the members that have been appointed, I am going to reiterate, are made up of individuals from supply chain management, TMPD, the user department, as well as the departments who regularly utilise or make use of this tender. It is a multidisciplinary structure, a form of individuals and expertise who are together involved with dealing with these matters.”

The tender responsibility lies with the TMPD, but if this function is not in place, the Human Settlements department normally uses the tender as Human Settlements or Shared Services; TMPD owns the tender and provides funding.

“responsible for the tender in this case will be TMPD ... the owner of this tender is TMPD ... they make available some sort of funding to ensure that this tender is executed accordingly”

The physical verification is conducted on site by the Bid Evaluation Committee made up of multifaceted individuals from supply chain management, TMPD, and the user department responsible for utilising the tender.

“...the Bid Evaluation Committee , I am going to reiterate , Chairperson , they are made up of multifaceted individuals across the City from supply chain management , TMPD , as well as the user department that is responsible for utilising this tender . They then must go out on site and conduct physical inspections and validate whether the vehicles that have been provided as part and parcel of the bid are actually those vehicles ...”

The Bid Evaluation Committee members are appointed by the City Manager and are representatives seconded by departments such as TMPD and Human Settlements.

“Members of these committees are appointed by the City Manager . They are representatives , and they are seconded by the departments .”

The Chief of Police is responsible for providing TMPD individuals to the Bid Evaluation Committee to avoid hand-picking individuals favorable to anyone.

“The Chief of Police will be responsible for providing individuals who are from TMPD to certain , on BEC . If it is Human Settlements who is involved as well , group Human Settlements department must second individuals who will serve in BEC as well .”

BAC did not allow another extension for the tender because the 15 percent variation was depleted and advised the department to put systems in place for advertising and fast-tracking the process; TMPD still required the service resulting in a deviation request which BAC scrutinised and found the procurement process and probity delays were causes but highlighted poor planning and irregular expenditure.

“BAC did not and could not allow another extension on the basis that, firstly, we advised the department to ensure that they put systems in place to advertise the tender and fast-track the appointment process, one. Secondly, the 15 percent variation was depleted...within that service...came to BAC asking for an outright deviation...the deviation report is articulated as due to the reasons of finalising the procurement process and delays in the probity report...However, taking into account the above, there is a huge element of poor planning that will be considered by oversight bodies or auditors like the Auditor General. The BAC then recommends that this will attract Regulation 32, meaning it will be irregular expenditure...It is poor planning. It will be irregular expenditure. It must be investigated as such.”

Delays in finalising the tender process meant TMPD requested another extension as Section 36 outside deviation which BAC approved, but deficiencies in supply chain management made the expenditure irregular.

“The reasons why there have been delays and that motivates for this extension is a result of the probity process currently undertaken. It has not been finalised. It is still in the process of being validated. Hence, they came back and they asked for another extension in the form of a section 36 outside deviation. Similarly, BAC approves this and provides a similar recommendation that the service is indeed key. We do not dispute that from the department. However, supply chain management prescripts and the law, there has been deficiencies that have been identified. There is nowhere that we can account to this not being irregular expenditure.”

TMPD representatives repeatedly requested extensions for the tender process between June and November due to delays in processes, with BAC approving but recognizing these as outright deviations attracting irregular expenditure.

“Mr Vusi Mabona, also a delegated official from TMPD, supported by the Deputy Chief Revo Spies, comes to BAC to ask for another extension...tenders still not being finalised due to the various processes that are still being undertaken...The department motivates. They tell BAC that they are aware that it will attract Regulation 32...this is not an extension, it is an outright deviation appointment...it will attract irregular expenditure...we are referring it to the relevant authorities for further investigation...we need to disclose this in the city's annual financial statements.”

User department officials from Tshwane Metropolitan Police Department make necessary presentations for bid extensions to the BAC, and submissions for extension applications in relation to the relevant contract were prepared and managed by duly authorised representatives of TMPD.

“Officials from TMPD make the necessary presentations, Chair, setting out the reasons why extensions must be made for TMPD 2, 2016 - 17. These presentations are then considered by the BAC after due consideration we will make a recommendation in accordance to the applicable process. ... I state, Chair, for the record that all submission applications in relation to the extension for the relevant contract were prepared, managed by the duly authorised representatives of TMPD in accordance with their respective responsibilities.”

On 20 February 2025, Mr Veli Nwandule, an official delegated by TMPD, requested an extension for TMPD02 services at BAC, which was not granted.

“on the 20th of February 2025, an official who is delegated by TMPD comes to BAC, Mr Veli Nwandule, requests for an extension. This extension, Chair, is not granted.”

On 26 June and 5 September 2025, Deputy Chief Revo Spies came to BAC requesting extension applications on TMPD tender TMPD022016-2017, which were not standard extension applications but Regulation 6 Supply Chain Management requests and outright deviations to appoint the same bidders.

“there are two instances where the Deputy Chief Revo Spies comes to BAC on the 26th of June 2025 and the 5th of September 2025, requesting for an extension application on the TMPD tender under scrutiny being TMPD022016-2017. ... This does not come as an extension application anymore. It comes as a Regulation 6 Supply Chain Management request. It is an outright deviation to appoint the same bidders.”

TMPD may either continue with the current 22 companies despite deviation or choose any other in the market, requiring a new deviation process.

“TMPD ... They could pick out utilize the current existing 27 because the deviation ... They could go out and pick any other individual ... The outcomes and the impact ... are the same ... They will go with the existing 22 companies ... It meant that this tender was cancelled and another deviation process will have to follow ... The decision to embark on the choice of deviation rests with the user department”

There were claims related to invoices for ad hoc security services allegedly rendered to the City's Group Water and Sanitation Business Unit, guarded by TMPD personnel.

“He further indicated that there were claims related to invoices for ad hoc security services allegedly rendered to the City's Group Water and Sanitation Business Unit...they were guarding Rooiwal Wastewater stations and other stations of that nature.”

All functions related to security services were vested in TMPD, making TMPD the only department competent to address and resolve security service matters.

“My understanding at the time was that all functions related to security services were vested within TMPD and that TMPD was accordingly the only department competent, Chair, to address and resolve the matter.”

There was initial lack of assistance from TMPD on the invoice claims, prompting referral for further clarity and resolution.

“The representative from his department had already been in contact with individuals from several individuals from TMPD, but he had not received the necessary assistance or attention...I therefore informed him that I would refer the matter to TMPD for further clarity...”

There was a stand-off between TMPD and City's Group Water and Sanitation Business Unit on which department's budget should pay for security services.

“From my understanding, there was a stand-off between the two departments on who should avail budget to pay for these services. Remember, budgets are restricted to various planning aspects of each department.”

Deputy Chief Umashi Dhlamini intervened to coordinate between departments to resolve the matter of outstanding invoices for security services.

“Following the intervention of Deputy Chief Umashi Dhlamini, City's Water and Sanitation Business Unit confirmed that the invoices and the services were rendered to TMPD...Deputy Chief Umashi Dhlamini assisted in coordinating these engagements between the City's Group Water and Sanitation Business Unit, TMPD and Supply Chain Management to facilitate a resolution of the matter at hand.”

The City's Group Water and Sanitation Business Unit provided the necessary budget to TMPD to regularise the administrative process and enable proper procurement documentation for security services rendered.

“City's Group Water and Sanitation Business Unit subsequently made the necessary budget available to TMPD, thereby enabling TMPD to deal with the matter further and to arrange for the creation and finalisation of the requisite purchase orders in accordance with the applicable internal controls.”

All ad hoc security services were to cease urgently and new internal controls were agreed and implemented to regulate the security service process more effectively under TMPD ownership and responsibility.

“There were further engagements...a resolution was taken that all ad hoc security services were to cease as a matter of urgency...new internal controls were agreed upon and implemented to regulate the process more effectively and the Security Services functions were thereafter formally allocated and agreed for TMPD to deal with.”

Mr Mnisi sent a WhatsApp message on 26 February 2025 asking Sgt Nkosi who Sipho Nkomo and Joe Mabunda from TMPD were.

“you ask Sergeant Nkosi: “Who is Sipho Nkomo or Joe Mabunda from TMPD.””

Director Malatji had no formal input into a handover report compiled when the asset unit was moved back to TMPD, as he was not invited by his supervisor Mr Nava Pillay.

“I was not invited by my supervisor there ... I do not remember having a meeting in order to compile or make inputs into the handing over”

The executive decided to move the asset unit back to TMPD and gave a date on which the unit was recalled without further consultation with Director Malatji.

“a decision has been taken by the executive ... the date the unit would be going back to TMPD and that was it”

The TMPD did not monitor the deployment at least twice a month as stipulated by the Service Level Agreement due to personnel capacity constraints.

“the review of the monitoring reports revealed that the TMPD does not monitor the deployment at least twice a month as stipulated by the SLA”

All municipal departments require security services from asset protection services, including various properties and personnel, involving clinics, cemeteries, water reservoirs, pump stations, electric substations, markets, regional offices, emergency services, executive mayor, mayoral committee members, and any official whose life is in danger.

“The properties, assets, and personnel which require protection are from all the departments, including TMPD. The said properties and personnel include clinics, cemeteries, water reservoirs, pump stations, electric substations, storage facilities, markets, regional offices, emergency services, executive mayor, mayoral committee members, and any official whose life is in danger, the list is exhaustive.”

Mr Revo Spies issued an instruction to officials in Director Malatji's office not to provide him any information that might assist in preparing his testimony for the Commission.

“Mr Revo Spies issued an instruction to some of the officials that are in my office not to give me any piece of information that I might need in order to prepare myself for today's testimony.”

Director Malatji stated he did not generate purchase orders for Gubis Solutions February to June 2025 for ad hoc services; purchase orders are generated by finance officials at TMPD headquarters.

“I did not generate purchase orders for Gubis Solutions during February to June 2025 for adhoc services. Purchase orders are created by the responsible finance officials at TMPD head office.”

Director Malatji acknowledged he was incorrect about the period covered by procurement documents related to protected services not within TMPD, which were actually up to June 2024, not 2025.

“The documents you attached are for the year ending 30 June 2024. So I think the question that you were being asked related to the 2025 year ... So maybe when you supplementary your statement, you can deal with that question but focusing on the 2025 year.”

Director Malatji suspects Revo Spies was appointed through a corrupt and irregular recruitment process and notes an anonymous complaint to the Public Protector's office questioning Spies' qualifications and employment approval.

“I am suspicious that Mr Spies was appointed through a corrupt and irregular recruitment process ... an anonymous complaint ... at the Public Protector's office ... His qualifications were questioned. His employment position was advertised despite not being approved on TMPD employment structure ...”

Revo Spies was appointed Deputy Chief of Police, Asset Protection and Security Services on 1 March 2025, but the TMPD structure at that time accommodated only the position of Divisional Head, Asset Protection Services, which is almost a civilian position.

“Mr Revo Spies was appointed on the 1st of March 2025, to the position of Deputy Chief, Asset Protection and Security Services. At that point, the structure ... was having the position of Divisional Head, Asset Protection Services ... The difference is Divisional Head is almost a civilian position ...”

The structure approved on 4 June 2025 was only little accommodating of Commissioner Revo Spies' position, implying the structure before June 2025 allowed all occupants to hold the position of Divisional Head, Asset Protection Services.

“The structure approved on the 4th of June 2025 was so little accommodating Commissioner Revo Spies because ... before this new one, everyone would be occupying the position as per the structure being the Divisional Head, Asset Protection Services.”

Director Malatji alleges that if there is corruption in the appointment structure, it must be attributed to the Chief of Police or whoever approved the structure, not Deputy Commissioner Revo Spies, as he does not create the structure.

“the person then that you are accusing of corruption can not be ... must be the Chief of Police then... It cannot be Deputy Commissioner Spies ... He is not the boss of the TMPD”

The problem with the TMPD structure arose from June 2025 when the structure changed and got approved to accommodate Commissioner Spies, while before that the position was Divisional Head, Asset Protection Services.

“The problem was ... when I looked at the appointment requirements ... these appointment requirements are earmarking specific individual ... The structure of the TMPD before June was the Divisional Head, Asset Protection Services. Now, he got appointed whilst the structure was talking to Divisional Head ... It was only in June that the structure was changed and got approved.”

Director Malatji stated in 2024 his supervisor was the City Manager, not Bolhuis nor TMPD people.

“Because the 2024 year, you were still under, who was your supervisor then? It was not Bolhuis and it was not people in the TMPD. Yes. It was the City Manager.”

Most issues related to the Commission's focus happened during the tenure of Commissioner Spies as caretaker of the APSS unit before March 2025.

“the Commission would have heard evidence from Commissioner Spies ... this evidence was limited to his arrival at the TMPD, which was in March 2025 ... before Mr Spies took over in March, he was the caretaker in what we call now the APSS ... most of the issues ... would have happened during his tenure as caretaker of that unit”

Final approval for finding additional funds for adhoc security services falls outside the TMPD unless it is covered by an approved budget, usually involving the Chief of Police, CFO, and city manager.

“Such final approval will not lie within the TMPD unless it is covered with the approved budget... The Chief of Police... can manage her own budget... then it goes through the processes recommended by the CFO, and it is finally approved by the accounting officer, which is the city manager...”

Deputy Commissioner Bolhuis indicates uncertainty whether the relocation of the APSS from city manager's office to TMPD itself constitutes misuse or exploitation of officials.

“Deputy Commissioner, can I just, just to make sure that I understand... are you saying that the movement of APSS from the office of the city manager to TMPD... is that what you are referring to when you say you were used? And had you known better, you would have responded better? Not necessarily, but that could be the case, I do not know.”

The City actually starts the tender process nine months before expiry for tenders.

“as a City, from now that I know of, we actually do start earlier. We take nine months before tenders expire. We as management and TMPD already sit with a nine-month list to say that these tenders will expire in the next nine months.”

From 1 March 2022 to end of January 2026, the total amount paid under the TMPD contract to all service providers was approximately R2,900,023,467.84 or about R730,857,466 per annum for a financial year July to June.

“total amount paid under this TMPD 2/2016/2017 to all the service providers since inception... 1 March 2022... end of January 2026... was R2900023467.84 which makes it approximately R730857466 per annum, our annum... It is a financial year, which July to June”

The City of Tshwane's water and sanitation client department approved additional security services but did not provide funds to the TMPD, causing TMPD to pay from its own budget, creating a deficit of R91 million for May and June 2025.

“The client department's water and sanitation department approved additional security services but did not make funds available to enable the TMPD to settle the invoices...This resulted in the TMPD having to pay for the adhoc services rendered from the normal contract budget, thereby creating a deficit of R57 million for the month of June, and a further R34 million, at total of R91 million, will be required for the month of May and June to cover for the adhoc services that would have been rendered.”

TMPD (Tshwane Metropolitan Police Department) is responsible for the deployment and allocation of security work to private companies.

“It is TMPD... the contract management of the tender is placed within TMPD, and the award letters and the SLA assigns this function to Director Malatji. He is the one who, in terms of the award letter and terms of the SLA is the director security, he must perform the function.”

The client department makes requests to TMPD to allocate security guards to specific sites.

“the client department make a request to TMPD to say we want you to allocate security guards at this reservoir or at this site.”

MMC Morodi sent information through Sergeant Nkosi because she thought he would be of good help even though she had direct access to the whole of Tshwane including TMPD.

“if the purpose of you sharing this information with General Dlamini was simply to get information about the status of things , then explain why MMC Morodi would want that information through you . She has access to the whole of Tshwane , including the TMPD”

General Dlamini is a deputy chief of TMPD and is involved in policing activities.

“He is a deputy chief .”

Sergeant Nkosi confirms General Dlamini is involved in policing but not in recruitment matters such as recruitment of cashiers, training officers, or cleaners.

“I only know that he is doing policing , he is into policing .”

The problem in payment was with the TMPD (security department) who had not processed or signed off invoices, delaying the CFO's ability to pay the service provider.

“The problem lay with the TMPD... They had to do something before the CFO could pay - they had to sign off on the invoices.”

Mr Nkomo and Mr Mabunda were the two departmental representatives from the TMPD on the Bid Evaluation Committee for this tender, knowledge Sergeant Nkosi did not have.

“Did you know that they were the two departmental representatives from the TMPD on the Bid Evaluation Committee for this tender ? I do not know .”