Witness: Sergeant Fannie Nkosi. Commissioner Mkhwanazi. Evidence leaders: Adv Chaskalson SC. Adv Sello SC.
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The list sent to Mr Mampane on April 30, 2025 was related to an ad hoc security services tender, not the land or demolition tender.
“It was, in fact, a list of bidders or prices for an ad hoc security services tender. Were you aware of that?”
The tender 3/2425 was mistakenly referred to as tender 1/2425 by Adv Chaskalson SC during the inquiry.
“If you look at the heading on page 980, you will see that it does not relate to tender 1/2425, which was the tender we discussed yesterday. It relates to tender 3/2425.”
Mr Mampane had an interest in the ad hoc security services tender because he had also applied for a tender.
“As I said earlier that I sent it to Mr Mampane because he had an interest in it, because he also applied.”
Mr Mampane's company was identified as NVP (N-V-P) which was the only security company on the list he knew of.
“N - E - P. Ja. Mampane's one, it might be N - V-P, not N - E - P. ... And is that his only security company? According to me.”
When the list was sent to Mr Mampane on April 30, 2025, the ad hoc security services tender was still ongoing and not a public document.
“In fact, it was not a public document. It was an internal City document relating to a tender process that was still ongoing at the time. ... On the 30th of April when you sent it, it had not been cancelled.”
Mr Mnisi was chairing the Bid Adjudication Committee and had the power to make recommendations which were implemented by the City Manager.
“Was it not Mr Mnisi who was chairing the Bid Adjudication Committee and who would make whatever recommendation was ultimately implemented by the City Manager in relation to this tender? ... As a matter of fact, it was Mr Mnisi who had the power to make the recommendation that was ultimately to be implemented by the City Manager in relation to this tender.”
Mr Mampane requested to prevent the appointment on tender/2024/25, allegedly wanting Mr Mnisi CFO to say no to it.
“Let me put to you how I understand it. He is saying let him, and the him it seems to me is Mr Mnisi, the CFO, say no to that appointment. He is saying tell Mr Mnisi not to make an appointment on tender/2024/25.”
The tender referred to was cancelled on October 29, 2025, based on a recommendation made by Mr Mnisi.
“It was cancelled on the 29th of October and it was cancelled pursuant to a recommendation made by Mr Mnisi.”
The tender was cancelled in October, but a WhatsApp message from April asked to prevent an appointment related to that tender, which was still thought to be active at that time.
“the tender, as a matter of fact, was cancelled in October. That is fact that is being put to you. We are looking at WhatsApp messages in April ... "Boetie, please let him say no to that appointment." ... was sent after he got information that the tender was cancelled ... at this point of this message, in April, the tender had not been cancelled”
Sergeant Nkosi states he cannot answer questions on things he is not sure of and does not want to say something he cannot elaborate on, thus occasionally responding with 'I cannot comment'.
“I would not answer something that I am not sure of. I would be defeating the same oath that I took. I want to answer to the best of my ability. ... If I cannot comment, I cannot comment. Not on the basis that maybe I am negative or I am funny. I cannot comment because I do not want to say something that I cannot elaborate further on it.”
Sergeant Nkosi acknowledges that if the tender was cancelled in October, then he could not have heard about the cancellation in April, so the message then couldn't have been sent after he heard the tender was cancelled.
“if the tender was cancelled in October, then in April he could not have been told or heard from anybody that the tender had been cancelled because it had not been cancelled. You should be able to accept that.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent a document to Mr Mampane related to a tender that was still under consideration at the time, thereby raising questions about why such a document was sent before the tender cancellation.
“you need to explain why you sent this document to Mr Mampane when it was a document relating to a tender that was still under consideration.”
Sergeant Nkosi maintains his position despite being challenged that the document he sent was not just the public list of bids but an internal Tshwane document regarding the status of the tender.
“your understanding, if it was your understanding, is simply wrong. ... I still stand by what I have said. ... the document is actually an internal Tshwane document, the date of which is not clear, but it is dealing with the status of this tender.”
Sergeant Nkosi asserts that once bids are considered and captured, the list of bids is sent out and is considered public domain information.
“once the tender has been considered and been captured, then it is sent out to indicate that fact. ... That is how I understand it. That it was already in the public domain.”
The document sent to Mr Mampane is an internal Tshwane adjudicatory process document, not a public document.
“This is an extract from an internal Tshwane adjudicatory process relating to the bids. It is not a public document .”
Once a tender is closed and names of companies are captured in the system, those names are then issued to the public.
“According to me, is that once the tender is closed and then names of the companies that had applied are the , the names of the companies that had tendered , once they have been captured in the system , they are then issued out to the public .”
The document titled TMPD03/2425 Draft Admin R is a draft internal document of the City and is unlikely to have been in the public domain.
“... from where this document starts, its seems from the heading of the document that it is an internal document because the name of the document is TMPD03/2425 Draft Admin R . I am assuming it will be report or whatever the complete name is , but it is a draft document . So it is unlikely that this document would have been , that is a further indication that it is unlikely that it would have been in the public domain because it is a draft document of the City .”
Mr Mampane was the right-hand man of the late Mr Msibi and they were not friends as of April 2025.
“Mr Mampane was the right-hand man of the late Mr Msibi ... I know that they are not friends . They are not talking .”
If new service providers are not appointed under a new tender, previous service providers will continue providing services monthly until new appointments.
“If there is a tender process and there was a previous tender before , if new service providers are not appointed under the new tender process , it means the previous service providers will continue providing services on a monthly basis until a new service provider is appointed .”
If an appointment was not made in terms of the tender, the existing security providers would continue providing adhoc services to the City until a new tender process was completed and a new appointment made.
“If an appointment was not made in terms of this tender , then the existing suppliers would remain providing adhoc security services to the City until a new tender process had taken place and a new appointment had been made .”
Existing service providers would have an interest in preventing new tenders that result in new appointments.
“If you were an existing service provider, you would have an interest in not having the new tender resulting in a new appointment .”
If you were a bidder for tender 3/2425 like Mr Mampane was, and saw your price would lose, you would have an even bigger incentive to get tender 3/2425 cancelled.
“If you were a bidder for tender 3/2425 , like you say Mr Mampane was , and you saw a list of all the bidders and all their prices and you realised that your price was going to lose , you would have an even bigger incentive to get tender 3/2425 cancelled .”
Sergeant Nkosi confirms that there was a tender involved which Mr Mampane had concerning an appointment, but he cannot recall the reason why Mr Mampane asked to say no to the appointment.
“But Mr Mampane did have a tender and he asked you to let him say no to that appointment, but you still say you cannot remember why he asked you to let him say no to that appointment.”
Sergeant Nkosi was sending a series of job application receipt documents to General Dlamini for vacancies advertised at Tshwane, encouraging youth to apply and following up on their applications.
“The reason that I was sending this to General Dlamini, these documents are the application for the vacancy that was advertised at Tshwane. As a person who is directly involved in the community activities, I am encouraging youth to apply for employment. I then make a follow-up to that effect.”
The City of Tshwane processes applications in 12 weeks, and applicants are advised to consider their applications unsuccessful if no reply is received within that time.
“You are hereby informed that correspondence will be limited to shortlisted candidates only. If you do not receive a reply within 12 weeks of the closing date, please consider your application unsuccessful.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent a receipt of a job application to General Dlamini three weeks after the City of Tshwane had already acknowledged receipt, to follow up as requested by MMC Morodi.
“She wanted me to check if indeed it was received, and maybe if I could do something in terms of checking, or what could be the problem, that maybe some of the people who applied to those vacancies were not being called. ... She wanted to make a follow-up upon whether the application had been received or not.”
Sergeant Nkosi has no formal or contractual relationship with Tshwane and is not a Tshwane official.
“You have no formal relationship with Tshwane. You are not a Tshwane official. You are not in any contractual relationship with Tshwane.”
Sergeant Nkosi was asked by MMC Morodi to make enquiries or follow up job applications with General Dlamini related to Tshwane Metro Police.
“Like myself, I am a police officer. When people apply for vacancy in the SAPS, they would maybe send questions or whatever reference. Because of your insight, can you check what is the progress of this application? ... I forwarded it to General Dlamini, like I was doing with other applications that are seen here in this document.”
Sergeant Nkosi follows up on job applications because of a belief in youth development and attempts to take advantage of opportunities for youth employment.
“I think it was a matter of, you know, believing that I believe in youth development and knocking on doors where there is an opportunity for people to work, especially youth.”
Sergeant Nkosi is not inside the Tshwane Police Department and is not formally inside the Tshwane Municipal Police Department though he assists them often.
“I am not formally inside. I would not comment on that, what you said first.”
The job applications Sergeant Nkosi followed up on were not successful because the applicants were not compliant, failed aptitude tests, or failed to run training obstacles.
“They were not compliant. They failed the aptitude test. Some they failed to run the training obstacle.”
Applicants individually reported to Sergeant Nkosi reasons for their failure in the application process.
“The applicants reported to you individually, I failed, this was the reason they gave me? Yes, the one that I know of, yes.”
None of the applicants Sergeaan Nkosi followed up on were successful.
“No, not the one that I can think of.”
Sergeant Nkosi was concerned about the legitimacy of a document inviting applicants to attend physical assessments because the message was forwarded to him with a shocked emoji from a parent of an applicant who received the invitation and was surprised that their child had not received one.
“The reason that I was concerned, this message was forwarded to me that, look, one of his friends was sent this. Then I take the same and forward it to the General. ... The person who forwarded it to me is the one who wrote this. I took the same and forwarded it to the General.”
The parent who forwarded the message was shocked because their child had not been invited to the fitness assessment, but a friend of their child had been.
“The parent was shocked that somebody else had been invited to do a fitness assessment, but their child had not.”
Sergeant Nkosi stated he did not make any arrangements with the applicants regarding General Dlamini, he only got involved after MMC Morodi sent the applications to him to follow up with the General.
“They do not know the General. I know the General. I did not make any arrangement with them with regard to the General. I said, send it to me. I will see how I can help. That is when I involved the General.”
Sergeant Nkosi questioned the legitimacy of fitness assessment invitations that summoned applicants to Fourways, Roodepoort, which is outside Tshwane, suggesting they came from Johannesburg, not Tshwane.
“It says: "The trainees must come at Fourways, Roodepoort." ... I know that Tshwane is not at the Roodepoort. Why would they then summon them to Roodepoort? ... One could assume that it would not come from Tshwane, it would come from Johannesburg.”
Sergeant Nkosi initially thought a document was a Tshwane application but it was actually for JMPD, leading him to question its legitimacy.
“I was forwarding it to General without maybe telling General that this is not the Tshwane document or not. Is it legit or not? I was forwarding it to the General to check if it was legit. But I think maybe it was coming from the base that I sent him the Tshwane application, not the JMPD.”
The parent of an applicant had an expectation that Sergeant Nkosi would ensure the applicant's application was processed and was concerned about fairness in who was invited to fitness assessments.
“What it looks like to me, from this exchange, is that you expected that the General would ensure that all of your applicants were invited for fitness assessments and documentation verification and got through the first round of the application process. ... And you were quite concerned that somebody who was not one of your applicants had been invited to a fitness assessment, and your applicant had not.”
No applicants from the batch of job applications, including cleaners, Metro Police posts, and general workers, were successful as far as Sergeant Nkosi knew.
“According to my understanding, nobody [was successful].”
Sergeant Nkosi explained that he sent job applications, including cleaner and general worker applications, not only for Metro Police but also under the umbrella of Tshwane to General Dlamini for follow-up because he worked closely at the head office.
“I am just taking advantage of the entity that he is working in, the umbrella of Tshwane. ... I think I took advantage of that he works in that particular entity of Tshwane.”
Sergeant Nkosi stated that there was little to no report back from General Dlamini regarding the fate of the job applications sent for processing.
“Nothing much. Nothing much he said. He said, no, you will make a follow-up. So, I did not make any follow-up with him.”
MMC Morodi sent information through Sergeant Nkosi because she thought he would be of good help even though she had direct access to the whole of Tshwane including TMPD.
“if the purpose of you sharing this information with General Dlamini was simply to get information about the status of things , then explain why MMC Morodi would want that information through you . She has access to the whole of Tshwane , including the TMPD”
Sergeant Nkosi speculates that MMC Morodi thought he might be of great help possibly due to office politics or because of his advocacy for youth development, despite her having direct access.
“I think maybe Commissioner , at that time maybe she thought that I will be of good help , even though she is within Tshwane , but this is what I thought , that maybe .”
Sergeant Nkosi denies there is bad blood or direct office politics blocking MMC Morodi from asking the recruitment people directly and instead suggests that MMC Morodi may have taken advantage of his advocacy for youth development.
“I am not even saying that there is bad blood . It is me now thinking about that . It is not even like that . You would find Commissioner that she was not even there in the issue of office politics , the way I am putting it to the Commission . So that is just me applying my mind that it might be . But the other one is this one , that because I am always advocating for youth development , that is why maybe she took advantage of that .”
Sergeant Nkosi says "office politics" might be a reason why MMC Morodi asked him to get information instead of directly querying Tshwane's recruitment personnel, but clarifies it's just his assumption.
“You know mos office politics is office politics . I am just assuming maybe this one has got bad blood with this one or this one . I am just saying that on the basis of my office politics . I am assuming , I am not saying it is like that .”
Sergeant Nkosi states he did not ask MMC Morodi why she sent information to him instead of getting it himself from Tshwane's recruitment people.
“I did not ask her , Commissioner .”
Sergeant Nkosi asserts that MMC Morodi knew he was an outsider with no official capacity in Tshwane but still asked him to get municipal information through his relationships.
“That she knew that you , an outsider , had a relationship in the municipality which allow you to get access to municipal information .”
Sergeant Nkosi rejects the assertion that MMC Morodi knew of his access and role as an outsider in the municipality to get municipal information.
“I do not accept that , Commissioner .”
Sergeant Nkosi explained that MMC Morodi sent him information to see what he could do about it as he is always pushing youth development, not to influence or do wrong things in Tshwane.
“It was purely asking that here are the - because I am always pushing that narrative that youth must be developed , youth must work . So , I think she sent me on those bases . Not on the basis that I must influence or I must - no , no , no , no , no .”
Sergeant Nkosi confirms it is correct that MMC Morodi sent him information to find out about the status of applications, meaning she knows he has the ability to obtain that municipal information.
“I want to say this was sent to you so that you can find out ... about the status of these applications , yes . So I say to you for MMC Morodi to send you this information so that you can get updates of the status of these applications , it must mean , it has to mean that she knows that you do have the ability to get that information from the municipality .”
Sergeant Nkosi affirms the purpose of information he received from MMC Morodi was to get information about the status of certain applications.
“all of this information comes to you so that you can get information about their status , the status of these applications . Right ? Am I representing your evidence correctly that that is your account ?”
Sergeant Nkosi denies that MMC Morodi was pushing him to do wrong things at Tshwane and that she supported any wrongdoing he might have done.
“I do not want it to , I do not know if I am correct , I do not want it to sound or to be seen as in MMC Morodi was pushing me to do the wrong things at Tshwane and she knew that I am doing wrong things at Tshwane and she supported my wrong things if they were wrong . My version of my statement is she sent me those things for me to see what I can do about them .”
Sergeant Nkosi is responsible for getting updates about the status of applications and receiving information from MMC Morodi for this purpose.
“That is correct .”
General Dlamini is a deputy chief of TMPD and is involved in policing activities.
“He is a deputy chief .”
Sergeant Nkosi confirms General Dlamini is involved in policing but not in recruitment matters such as recruitment of cashiers, training officers, or cleaners.
“I only know that he is doing policing , he is into policing .”
MMC Morodi sends lists of recruitment candidates to Sergeant Nkosi expecting him to use his access to people involved in recruitment, like General Dlamini, to assist these candidates and influence the outcome of appointments.
“when MMC Morodi sends you this list, to you, she knows that you have access to people who are involved with recruitment, whether it is General Dlamini or whoever, and she expect - the are two scenarios. She expects that you will use that relationship to assist these candidates that she is given you to get a favourable response to positions.”
One scenario is that MMC Morodi uses Sergeant Nkosi's access to recruitment officials to influence appointment outcomes directly.
“That is the one possible explanation for what is happening. These second possible explanation is MMC Morodi sends this to you because she does not want a footprint that as an MMC she is getting involved with issues of recruitment and putting up names to the officials to be appointed.”
The alternative scenario is that MMC Morodi wants to hide her involvement by using Sergeant Nkosi to influence recruitment indirectly and avoid leaving a footprint of involvement.
“The alternative is, as relates to MMC Morodi, she was actually hiding a footprint of influencing these applications, and she did that through you instead of directly speaking to officials in the City.”
Sergeant Nkosi denies that he was seeking information only when forwarding the recruitment applications information from MMC Morodi to General Dlamini, asserting that the explanation offered by ADV Baloyi is false.
“The answer that you have given to Mr Chaskalson, that you received this information from MMC Morodi to find out what is happening with these applications, that you forwarded all of these batches of information, the different batches, to General Dlamini because you wanted information on progress in the applications, that is a false answer. That is false.”
Sergeant Nkosi asserts that MMC Morodi gave him recruitment information to help people in need, not to enable him to influence appointments or because she expected him to influence.
“She just gave me because of wanting to help, not merely because I wanted to influence or she knew that I could influence.”
Sergeant Nkosi is not employed by the City of Tshwane.
“I think we have all agreed that you are not an employee of the City of Tshwane, correct?”
Sergeant Nkosi is not an employment agency.
“And you are not an employment agency, correct?”
When the City of Tshwane communicates with an applicant about employment, that communication is between the City and the applicant only.
“When an applicant applies to the City of Tshwane for employment, that is an issue between that applicant and the City of Tshwane.”
Correspondence between the City of Tshwane and a job applicant does not involve Sergeant Nkosi; it is strictly between the City and the applicant.
“Any correspondence between the City of Tshwane and that applicant will be between those two parties.”
Documents such as acknowledgement letters regarding job applications are internal City of Tshwane documents and not public.
“For example, this acknowledgement letter that somebody's application has been received, has been processed, and they will get feedback within 12 weeks. That is communication between Tshwane and the applicant, correct? ... And it is an internal Tshwane document because you pull it from the system. You do not have access to it...No, it cannot be in the public domain. These are not things that are put in newspapers.”
Sergeant Nkosi denies having had access to documents belonging to the City of Tshwane which he should not have accessed.
“I do not accept it.”
Sergeant Nkosi claims that his involvement in recruitment processes was motivated by trying to help unemployed youth and denies influencing or using his contacts or friendships improperly.
“I think it was on the basis of trying to help these youth who were unemployed or who are unemployed... If I used my influence at Tshwane or used my friends or people that I have captured in a way that Commissioner Khumalo has put it, it is a bit harsh. My Commissioner, I did not capture.”
Advocate Khumalo asserts that Sergeant Nkosi was pulling strings related to tenders and recruitment processes in the City of Tshwane without being authorized to do so, but Sergeant Nkosi denies this.
“you were pulling strings in relation to tenders at the Tshwane Municipality, but you were also pulling strings in relation to recruitment processes that had nothing to do with you.”
Sergeant Nkosi admitted to sending a TikTok clip link about the opening of the Joe Sibanyoni Foundation to the CFO, Mr Mnisi, but could not recall why he sent it.
“on the 15th of November 2024, you sent to Mr Mnisi, the CFO, a link to a TikTok clip of the opening of the Joe Sibanyoni Foundation . . . I just sent it to him . . . I would not remember exactly why I would have sent it to him.”
Sergeant Nkosi clarified that the abbreviation "JS" used in communication referred to Jenene Sibiya, and not Joe Sibanyoni, despite Adv Baloyi's correction that "JS" is not short for Jenene.
“JS means Jenene. Jenene Sibiya. Jenene Sibiya. Jenene Sibiya. Referring to Swazi . . . That is my answer . . . That is my understanding . . . Jenene, Jenene..”
Advocate Baloyi denies Sergeant Nkosi's explanation about the abbreviation "JS" and states that it is false that JS means Jenene.
“What I am saying to you, that is false. The answer you have given is false.”
Sergeant Nkosi communicated with Mr Sibanyoni and informed him about a meeting scheduled at 4 o'clock, explaining that he was still at the location of the meeting and Mr Sibanyoni responded with "Let me know how it goes."
“on the 30th of April at page 276 you sent the CFO a PIN with the location of Mr Sibanyoni's residence. On 277, you sent him a screenshot of the chats between yourself and Mr Sibanyoni, explaining that you were meeting Mr Sibanyoni at 4 o'clock and saying that you were still there at the foot of that screenshot. And he wanted to know, his response was: “Let me know how it goes.””
Sergeant Nkosi acknowledged the CFO's concern about meetings with JS and Sibanyoni on 30 April but distinguished levels of concern.
“his response immediately thereafter is: “Eish, should we be worried?” He seems to have concern when you are called to meetings with JS. Concerns for you and concerns for him...Was it not a similar concern for you that he was expressing in relation to a meeting with JS on the 30th of April? No. Yes. It was a separate concern? The way I read the message.”
Sergeant Nkosi said Mr Sibanyoni's concern to "let me know how it goes" could refer to Nkosi himself or a meeting with the CFO.
“may be he was just referring to me or a concern about me. Let me know how it goes. Maybe there are possibilities that on that day we were supposed to meet with him, the CFO, or not.”
Sergeant Nkosi denied recalling telling the CFO that Mr Sibanyoni was concerned about him.
“But a minute ago when you explained that you said he was concerned about me. I cannot remember saying that.”
Sergeant Nkosi confirmed Mr Sibanyoni was concerned for him about the meeting.
“he was just concerned for you, knowing that you were having a meeting with Mr Sibanyoni? That is correct.”
Sergeant Nkosi explained that he informed Mr Sibanyoni about his presence at Mr Sibanyoni's house and ongoing communication, which might explain Mr Sibanyoni's chat message "let us see how it goes."
“There are possibilities that maybe on that day I was supposed to meet him, the CFO. So, when I inform him that I am aware I am going because I am used on taking pictures ... So, this is how maybe he was talking to me that let us see how it goes.”
Sergeant Nkosi acknowledged he has a personal and ongoing relationship with Mr Sibanyoni, describing him as a taxi owner and businessman, and denied trying to distance himself from that relationship.
“I would not want to maybe admit putting it like I am trying to downplay the relationship with myself and Mr Sibanyoni. I never had a problem with him...He is a taxi owner he is a businessman. I have got no other relationship...I have never distanced myself ... I have never distanced in terms of the number, whether it is three or four.”
Sergeant Nkosi confirmed knowing that 'JS' refers to General Sibiya and Jenene when communicating with the CFO, and that they spoke about the same person.
“you knew who JS is. And then you say: 'I will handle him and will let you know.' So, you are both talking about the same person...The reason that I am saying it was General Sibiya ... The person we usually talk about is General Sibiya.”
Sergeant Nkosi denied having been with the CFO and Mr Sibanyoni together or discussing Mr Sibanyoni with the CFO in the presence of General Sibiya.
“No...I have never been to General Sibiya together with the CFO...Neither with Mr Sibanyoni...”
Sergeant Nkosi confirmed communication style with CFO treats them as one entity and does not necessarily mean he and CFO are with the same persons discussed.
“The way we communicate ... we declare each other as one...when you say are we okay, I am just saying it does not necessarily mean me and him...It necessarily means me...We are good, we are one.”
Sergeant Nkosi confirmed having discussed Mr Sibanyoni with Mr Mnisi and sharing a video clip of the launching of Mr Sibanyoni's foundation.
“It is not true you have not discussed Mr Sibanyoni with Mr Mnisi ... You have shared a video clip of the launching of his foundation ... You have also told him ... I am at the house of Sibanyoni ... I am still here ... I will let you know how it goes... Yes ... I have discussed with Mr Mnisi about Mr Sibanyoni.”
Sergeant Nkosi confirmed Mr Lekukela was an official in the Tshwane Municipality before moving to Rustenburg Municipality.
“Mr Lekukela had been an official in the Tshwane Municipality and then he moved to the Rustenburg Municipality.”
The photograph sent by Sergeant Nkosi showed Mr Lekukela and DJ Sumbody.
“It is Mr Lekukela and DJ Sumbody”
Sergeant Nkosi sent a photograph to Mr Lekukela three days after DJ Sumbody's murder, including a caption 'Why didn't you call him to order?'.
“at chat 4 on 3 November, that is three days after DJ Sumbody's murder, at 04:53 pm you sent Mr Lekukela a photograph”
Sergeant Nkosi wrote the caption 'Why didn’t you call him to order?' referring to DJ Sumbody and Mr Lekukela in the photograph.
“the caption that you put on your message is: “Why didn’t you call him to order?””
Sergeant Nkosi confirmed DJ Sumbody was murdered on 20 November 2022.
“DJ Sumbody was murdered on 20 November 2022.”
Sergeant Nkosi does not remember the reason why DJ Sumbody needed to be called to order, despite the caption.
“I do not know. I do not know. I cannot remember what this why didn’t you call him to order was relating to... I cannot remember that.”
Sergeant Nkosi denies that his message implied that if Mr Lekukela had called DJ Sumbody to order, DJ Sumbody might still be alive.
“Commissioners, I would not appreciate when you associate me with knowing what happened with DJ Sumbody, or what might be the cause, based on what I wrote here, why didn’t you call him to order. It had nothing to do with anything.”
Sergeant Nkosi affirms DJ Sumbody and Mr Lekukela were friends.
“Were DJ Sumbody and Mr Lekukela friends? That is correct.”
Sergeant Nkosi admits that DJ Sumbody was close to Mr Lekukela, but cannot recall the exact context of his message on that day and will check with Mr Lekukela.
“DJ Sumbody was close to Mr Lekukela. And I would not know what exactly we were talking about on that day, or that led me to say these words. But if maybe during lunch, I would be given an opportunity, I would check with Mr Lekukela on, really, really, if he remembers. Then I would come back.”
The Chairperson accuses Sergeant Nkosi of lying about not remembering the meaning of his text 'Why didn’t you call him to order?' related to DJ Sumbody who was murdered.
“You are lying to us, Sergeant Nkosi.”
The Chairperson rejects Sergeant Nkosi's claim of not remembering the meaning of the text and accuses him of lying repeatedly during the inquiry.
“So far until you give an answer that does sound truthful and honest, so far, I will say you are lying.”
Sergeant Nkosi denies knowing and remembers the event clearly, stating it happened long ago in 2022.
“I deny. Commissioners, it happened long ago in 2022. And I cannot, not in a bad way, I cannot remember everything that I said then nor I meant then.”
Commissioner Mkhwanazi has a bereavement in the family and the funeral is tomorrow, 21 March 2026, which affects his testimony scheduling.
“Commissioner Mkhwanazi has a bereavement in the family and the funeral is tomorrow, the 21st of March.”
The testimony of Commissioner Julius Mkhwanazi has been postponed to 14 April 2026 to allow him to attend the funeral and observe necessary rituals.
“The hearing of Commissioner Julius Mkhwanazi's evidence will be on 14 20 April 2026”
Sergeant Nkosi phoned Mr Lekukela to remind him about not interfering with people's girlfriends.
“I did manage to phone Mr Lekukela, who I was talking to at that time. He just reminded me that we were talking about how he could have warned the deceased of not interfering with people's girlfriends.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent police exhibit photographs of a crime scene in Limpopo involving a suspect arrested with firearms and money to Mr Lekukela, sourced from social media, to share information and discuss crime.
“It was the photograph of a scene of crime that happened in Limpopo, where a suspect were arrested in possession of firearms and this money. I was sending this to Mr Lekukela because it was on social media... we usually talk about this kind of crimes.”
The crime referenced in the Sebayeng case is kidnapping and extortion.
“The crime, the primary crime here is kidnapping and extortion.”
Sergeant Nkosi communicates almost exclusively with Mr Lekukela about crimes and suspicious matters occurring around them.
“I usually communicate or talk to Mr Lekukela mostly about this kind of things. Even himself, wherever he is in his private life, when he sees something suspicious, he also send to me...”
Sergeant Nkosi sent a warrant of arrest of Musa Khawula to Mr Lekukela to notify or alert nearest police officials if they saw Musa Khawula in places such as pubs in Bryanston.
“The reason that I sent it to him, I wanted him also to notify me or notify then nearest police when he sees Musa Khawula... especially there in Bryanston, he usually sees him... I then took advantage of that and said to him, please, when you see him, the nearest police, inform them, this is the copy of the warrant...”
Mr Lekukela is politically affiliated with the ANC.
“That is correct.”
Mr Mnisi referred to Mr Lekukela Imbungulu as managed in the context of the Tshwane governance and election scenario, suggesting Imbungulu would never win against them.
“Mr Mnisi is sending you a Whats App, which is a copy of an article which says: “Tshwane proves governance can thrive without the DA, says EFF's Malema.” And ... Mr Mnisi says: “I am okay, my brother. We are managing this guy, my brother. I just wanted to show you, Imbungulu will never win.””
Sergeant Nkosi understood that Mr Mnisi meant they were managing Mr Lekukela, not Mr Malema, in the WhatsApp message.
“So when Mr Mnisi sent you this WhatsApp, was he saying we are managing Mr Malema and I wanted to show you that Mr Lekukela ... is never going to win. ... At that time he was not, he did not meant that. ... What did you understand him to mean with that WhatsApp? I would not want to merge or to understand that I was in support of that, but I am just shown that the message was, said that Mr Mnisi are managing Mr Malema and therefore Lekukela would not win.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent Mr Lekukela an invitation to General Sibiya's birthday celebration to accompany him, despite Mr Lekukela not being a friend of General Sibiya.
“On the 14th of December 2023 you sent Mr Lukukela an invitation to General Sibiya's birthday celebration ... I wanted him to go with me to General Sibiya's birthday ... He did not state whether whom must I come with. I just felt that I must come with this one. ... No. He is not. ... Yes. ... So you felt entitled to bring him to General Sibiya's birthday celebration although he was not a friend of General Sibiya? ... I did not see a problem in that.”
Sergeant Nkosi bought four bikes, one each for Mr Molefe, Mr Msibi, Mr Mthakathi, and Mr Motsumi.
“As I understand it, you bought a bike for Mr Molefe, a bike for Mr Msibi, a bike for Mr Mthakathi, and a bike for Mr Motsumi. Four bikes. ... That is correct.”
Mr Molefe's bike cost about R798,000 and was partially paid in cash with documented deposits from August to December 2023.
“Doyou remember how much it cost? 798. ... So I have been through your WhatsApp's and I have extracted all of the bike payments I could find ... Starting 8th Oct ... R100,000 cash ... 23rd of May 2022 ... R200,000 cash ... 16 Oct 2023 ... R700,000 ... 18 Nov 2023 ... R200,000 cash.”
Payments related to bikes include transfers and EFTs, some sent via WhatsApp by Mr Molefe, and one EFT for 150,000 on 9 December 2023.
“The last payment I can find is an EFT for 150,000 on the 9th of December 2023 ... It is the only WhatsApp in all of these that is sent to you from Mr Molefe”
There were four bikes involved with payments covering all four.
“there were four bikes, you say? ... Yes ... Would all four bikes have been covered by these payments and possibly others? ... That is correct.”
An EFT payment for 200,000 to Mr Molefe through Mkombeni Transport was made by Sergeant Nkosi's brother on behalf of Sergeant Nkosi.
“Who made this payment of 200,000 through the company Mkombeni Transport? ... It was my brother.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent payment proofs of deposits to Mr Msibi, Mr Motsumi, Mr Thakathia, and Mr Molefe.
“I will send each and every one the proof of deposit ... I think I have sent it to Mr Msibi, Mr Motsumi, Mr Thakathia and Mr Molefe.”
The 200,000 cash was given to Sergeant Nkosi by Mr Msibi to buy a bike for Mr Molefe.
“The money was from, Mr Msibi gave me cash ... So Mr Msibi gave you cash to buy a bike for him or to contribute to Mr Molefe's bike? ... Okay, it has been done like this. Mr Msibi will give me money.”
The sender "Daddy K" in the chat exchanges is Mr Molefe.
“In these chats, the sender Daddy K ... That is Mr Molefe.”
Sergeant Nkosi did not have time to personally deposit cash, so he had to ask his brother to make the payment using Mkombeni Transport and then replaced the cash later from Mr Msibi.
“I did not have time to go there and I had cash with me. Then I asked him to send, to pay to Waterworld. Then I will replace with the cash that I had at that time from Mr Msibi.”
Payment of R310,000 was sent on 9 December 2023 with the message "Nazo" attached, which was the only deposit slip with a message attached.
“You sent the message Nazo together with the deposit slip ... That is the only deposit slip that has any message on it ... I think it was with regards to the payment of the bike.”
The EFT payment of 150,000 on 9 December 2023 was made from a company called Zinopindrana, which was likely one of Mr Msibi’s companies with Mr Sibande as the sole director.
“It is from a company called Zinopindrana ... The only director of this company, Zinopindrana, is Mr Siyabulela Sibande ... Might be one of Mr Msibi’s companies ...”
Mr Msibi had cash payments totalling hundreds of thousands of rands, coming from his taxi business which had over 200 taxis operating long distance, local, and cross-border.
“Mr Msibi is a taxi owner and he had more than 200 taxis ... Usually his money was in form of cash ... He was a long distance, local and cross-border.”
Despite the large cash payments, Waterworld did not raise any concerns because there was a prior arrangement between Mr Msibi and the owner of Waterworld before payments were made in cash.
“It has never been an issue ... before there was a payment, there was an arrangement prior to that ... The owner of Waterworld, there was an arrangement ... between him and Mr Msibi.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent spider diagrams from police investigations to Mr Msibi via WhatsApp on 6 August 2021, although Mr Msibi was not entitled to see such diagrams.
“And do you see that there is a whole series of them that you WhatsApp to Mr Msibi from chat number 6 on page 621 all the way down to chat number 3 on page 623.”
Spider diagrams usually come from police investigations.
“They are usually from police investigations, are they not?”
Sergeant Nkosi could not clearly recall why he sent spider diagrams from police investigations to Mr Msibi on 6 August 2021 but thought it was taken from his laptop.
“I think it was taken from my laptop. I do not know what was it all about, but it was me.”
Sergeant Nkosi admitted to sending spider diagrams to Mr Msibi, despite Mr Msibi not being entitled to receive them.
“No.”
Sergeant Nkosi said he did not send spider diagrams to Mr Msibi often and could recall this event due to its rarity.
“No, I did not often send him this spider.”
The bakkie sent to Mr Msibi was his son's bakkie which was hijacked.
“His son's bakkie.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent a photo of a bakkie hijacked from Mr Msibi's son to Mr Msibi on or before 8 August 2021.
“I have sent him a bakkie and I remember at that time, this bakkie was hijacked.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent a money jacket photo to Mr Msibi to show that he had the money in his possession as Mr Msibi gave him money for safekeeping because he was drunk and feared kids might take the money.
“Okay, I was showing Mr Msibi that his money was in my possession, because of the previous night I was with him, up until midnight. So he gave me money to keep on that day that he might be too drunk and the sekids will take my money. Keep it. And then the same jacket I took it to my vehicle.”
Mr Msibi gave Sergeant Nkosi a stack of money for safekeeping on a day when Mr Msibi was drunk, trusting Sergeant Nkosi more than others.
“He had a stack of money in his possession. This is one of the monies, or this is the money that he had on that day... As he was getting drunk he said, hey, keep this money before I misplace it or the sekid take advantage of it.”
Sergeant Nkosi remembers receiving a money picture from Mr. Mswazi, who gave it to him to put in and then put in his vehicle, reasoning that the kids would take the money because Mr. Mswazi had been drinking.
“Mr Mswazi gave it to you to go and put it in, and then you put it in your vehicle and this is what he said, he gave it to you because he thought these kids would take it because he has been drinking”
Sergeant Nkosi says Mr Msibi trusted him because he was honest and a man of God, and people do not touch their things without permission.
“Because you know when you are a man of God they know that you are honest. You cannot touch their things without their permission.”
Sergeant Nkosi clearly remembers the money picture and the circumstances around it, but does not remember why he sent the spider diagram to Mr. Mswazi, which is unusual.
“It is very curious that you do not just remember the money, you ... you do not remember why you sent the spider diagram to Mr Mswazi”
Sergeant Nkosi explains he remembers the money because Mr. Mswazi, when waking up after being drunk, would ask about the money, which helps explain why he remembers the money picture.
“The one thing that when he wakes up is his money, where is my money, or is my money here. So that reflects in my message that it might be possible to remember”
The money picture was sent on 8th August, and the spider diagrams are on 6th August, so the dates are different although close in time.
“The money picture is on the 8th of August and the spider diagrams are on the 6th of August. So the dates are wrong”
Sergeant Nkosi remembers the bakkie being hijacked from the most beloved son, and that is why he remembers it, although the date is different from the money picture and spider diagrams which were sent on different dates.
“I also apologize ... the other thing that I remembered about the bakkie is because it was hijacked from the most beloved son. So, I remember because he was furious about that hijack. So that is the reason I remember it”
The spider diagrams relate to details of the same person who was seen on the first one, including addresses and allegations against that person and cases in respect of which the person was arrested.
“They all relate to details of the same person who was on the first one that you saw. They relate to addresses, allegations against that person in respect to previous cases, occasions on which that, or cases in respect to which that person was arrested”
Sergeant Nkosi maintains that due to the diagram stating the case number and particulars of the person, he can admit to sending the spider diagram to Mr Msibis but cannot recall exactly what was discussed.
“I still maintain that I cannot remember exactly, but I do admit the diagram, because of the diagram, it states the case number, the particulars of the person. But I cannot recall exactly which issue did we discuss with Mr Msibi”
Mr Sibande, director of Zinopindrane, paid 150,000 towards the purchase of bikes related to the Galito EFF spokesperson chats.
“Mr Sibande, who was the director of Mr Msibi's company, Zinopindrane, paid 150,000 towards the purchase of the bikes”
A video of the murder of AKA and Tebello was shown, which is publicly available and was known through the news.
“It was AKA and Tebello, ja ... According to me, it was all over the news”
Sergeant Nkosi sent footage of the murder to Mr Sibande because they were talking about it and because Mr Sibande, nephew of Mr Mthakathi, knew the deceased.
“Because we were talking about it, myself, Mr Sibande, AKA's friend is a nephew to Mr Mthakathi. As a result, Mr Sibande knew the deceased”
Sergeant Nkosi was involved in murder investigations related to the murder of AKA and his friend but left at an early stage.
“Are you subsequently involved in the murder investigations? That is correct ... I left that investigation at the early stage”
The murder incident occurred in KwaZulu-Natal and the docket remained a KwaZulu-Natal case, but was also an Organized Crime case.
“This was an incident in KZN... the docket ended up at national office? We were working hand in glove with KZN police... That is correct... But it was an Organized Crime case as well”
Brigadier Ramangwawa was the Head of Investigation who assigned Sergeant Nkosi.
“Brigadier Ramangwawa was the Head of investigation ... So he is the one who assigned you? That is correct.”
Sergeant Nkosi sent Mr Sibande a YouTube clip about Mr Matlala that alleged involvement in fraud at Tembisa Hospital and other related allegations including misuse of blue lights and murder investigation.
“... you sent him a link to a clip on YouTube about Mr Matlala. ... It was about Mr Matlala, the allegations that he was involved in fraud at Tembisa Hospital, the fact that Babita Deokaran had been murdered while investigating that fraud, and the allegations that ... his then wife was using blue lights to take their children to school.”
Sergeant Nkosi was sharing the clip with Mr Sibande possibly as gossip about Mr Matlala, whom Mr Sibande also knew.
“I think his interest it was on the basis that he knew Mr Matlala, and Mr Matlala was someone, or is someone who also talked with Mr Sibande. ... I think it was a matter of maybe gossip ...”
By February 2023, Sergeant Nkosi was aware of the allegations against Mr Matlala involving fraud, murder of Babita Deokaran, and misuse of blue lights linked with the Ekurhuleni Council.
“By February 2023, you would have been aware of these allegations against Mr Matlala ... that he was involved in fraud at Tembisa Hospital, that the investigator of that fraud had been murdered, and that he was also alleged to have abused a relationship with the Ekurhuleni Council to get blue lights on his vehicles.”
Sergeant Nkosi shared the article about Mr Matlala with Mr Msibi and possibly others because Cat was head of security for Mr Msibi, and Mr Nkosi wanted to inform Mr Msibi about what was happening regarding Cat.
“I think now the explanation would be because at that time, Cat was the head of security for Mr Msibi. I was informing Mr Msibi that this is happening about Cat.”
Sergeant Nkosi warned Mr Msibi by February 2023 that he should be careful about associating with Mr Matlala because of the allegations against him.
“You were warning Mr Msibi that he should not be seen associating with Mr Matlala ... or must be careful with him, yes.”
Sergeant Nkosi was aware of the media allegations against Mr Matlala of fraud, unlawful use of blue lights from the Ekurhuleni Metro Police Department, and possible link to the murder of Babita Deokaran by February 2023.
“At the time that General Sibiya says he first met Mr Matlala, there had been allegations published in the media that Mr Matlala was linked to fraud at Tembisa Hospital, was operating unlawfully with blue lights from the Ekurhuleni Metro Police Department and maybe linked to the murder of Babita Deokaran.”
Sergeant Nkosi admitted he did not warn General Sibiya about the risk of associating with Mr Matlala, possibly due to negligence or recklessness.
“Maybe I was negligent on that part or reckless by not alerting him. I do not want to lie and say I have alerted him. I did not.”