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After the Constitutional Court ruled suspension of Robert McBride unlawful, the IPID case against General Phahlane was reactivated 10 months after the complaint was opened.
“the Constitutional Court ruled that the suspension of Robert McBride was unlawful... which meant that in November 2016, 10 months after I had opened this case against General Phahlane, the case suddenly came alive again”
Two Crime Intelligence officials placed in IPID by the Minister of Police managed investigations but absconded from IPID after Robert McBride was reinstated and returned to Crime Intelligence.
“These two officials absconded from IPID and never came back. They went back to Crime Intelligence... placed by the Minister of Police”
General Mkhwanazi interfered with IPID and tried to get IPID members to leave and provide dirt on Robert McBride and the speaker related to the Phahlane investigation.
“He was interfering with IPID and trying to get IPID members to leave IPID and give them some dirt on Robert McBride and allegedly against me as well”
At the time of the events in question, the speaker was on the ground and knew what was going on concerning Mahlangu and Nkabinde, and that Mkhwanazi was fishing for information about Robert McBride and Paul O'Sullivan.
“I knew that this related to Mandla Mahlangu, by the way, Cedric Nkabinde... he does mention that Mkhwanazi was fishing to see what he could find out about Robert McBride and Paul O'Sullivan”
The speaker had no involvement other than the Phahlane investigation concerning Robert McBride, and it is hard to draw a conclusion from the available evidence about interference by Mkhwanazi.
“My only involvement with Robert McBride at that moment in time was the Phahlane investigation... so it is hard to draw that conclusion”
General Mkhwanazi requested information that could implicate McBride in criminal wrongdoing involving Paul O'Sullivan.
“Mkhwanazi asked me for information that could implicate McBride in criminal wrongdoing involving Mr Paul O'Sullivan”
The statement was obtained by Robert McBride and filed with the Ad Hoc Committee, which called witnesses but did not call Mr. Khuba as a witness.
“Robert McBride obtained this statement and tried to persuade the Ad Hoc Committee to call Mr Khuba as a witness, but they did not”
The Ad Hoc Committee did not obtain the statement; Robert McBride obtained it and produced it quickly with limited detail before his appearance at the committee.
“My understanding is that Robert McBride obtained the statement and that when he obtained it, with all due respect, he did not spend long enough cobbling it together. It could have contained a lot more detail and this was a quick rush job done before his appearance at the Ad Hoc Committee”