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Imran promised to give chocolates on Friday when they meet, but the meeting did not happen and no chocolates were given.
“Before I entered the vehicle, Imran said, I do not have anything now, but I will give you your chocolates on Friday when we meet.”
Mrs Hongwemp never met with Imran or Mr Kajee after the promised meeting on Friday, and dropped calls from them.
“I never. I never. I made sure that calls that I do not understand, I drop immediately.”
Mrs Hongwemp has no clear recollection of the 10 March 2026 call and possibly dropped it due to being busy with Ad Hoc work; she did not consent to engage further in the call.
“I do not have a clear recollection of yona lento le (this thing)... if I am busy maybe with Ad Hoc I will pick up and say, hey I am busy, I will call you... I am not agreeing to it, but I do not remember it only.”
Mrs Hongwemp never spoke again to those men after the call and might have missed parts of the call due to being busy at work.
“One thing I know for sure, I have never spoken to those guys ever again... I might have missed that if it happened like that... I might have said to her, I am not available, I am committed, I am busy at work.”
Mrs Hongwemp met President Zuma and Duduzane Zuma the day after the meeting and recounted to them what had transpired, where President Zuma expressed surprise because the meeting's reason was not disclosed to him upfront.
“The following day I met with President Zuma and Mr Duduzane Zuma and recounted to them what had transpired in the meeting as previously explained. President Zuma expressed surprise that this was the reason the meeting had been requested, as this had not been disclosed to him upfront.”
Mrs Hongwemp reported the meeting to her principals, President Zuma as party president and elder, and Duduzane Zuma as a member of the Presidential Task Team (PTT).
“I went to my principals. President Zuma is my President in the party and my elder... And then, Duduzane Zuma is the member of the PTT, which is Presidential Task Team.”
President Zuma and Duduzane Zuma appeared unfamiliar with General Kahn and the two men (Imran and Mr Kajee), and President Zuma gave permission to 'bring it out' or reveal the issue after Mrs Hongwemp explained the matter to them.
“The President does not know General Kahn. He met that guy once... even Duduzane confirmed it... when we spoke about these two guys, he said oh those cigarette guys... meaning those guys, those cigarette guys, oh they came here wanting to see you, so what was wrong with that?... So then told the President I was called for such a thing... This is when the President tells me, no, no, no, do the right thing, you know your job, go do your thing, take this thing out. So I got the blessing... from my seniors.”
Mrs Hongwemp did not report the matter to the Ad Hoc Committee but spoke about it during questioning of General Masemola.
“I did not, I would not use the word report it. But when I went to the committee on that day, I spoke about it when I was questioning General Masemola.”