Major Phiri does not know Joe Sibanyoni personally and has never spoken to him, stating he is not interested in taxis.
“I have never spoken to Mr Joe Sibanyoni, and I do not believe I will speak to him because I am not interested in taxis”
Referred to as: Joe Sibanyoni · Mr Joe Sibanyoni · Mr Sibanyoni · J S · number one
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Major Phiri does not know Joe Sibanyoni personally and has never spoken to him, stating he is not interested in taxis.
“I have never spoken to Mr Joe Sibanyoni, and I do not believe I will speak to him because I am not interested in taxis”
There appears to be a phone call pattern where after Deputy Mayor Bonzo Modise calls Major Phiri, calls are made to Joe Sibanyoni on the same day.
“there seems to be a pattern where he calls Mr Sibanyoni”
MR MNISI received a PIN at 3:28 message time on 30th April related to a meeting he had to attend with Mr Joe Sibanyoni.
“... he then obviously either does not understand me when he calls me on the next message. I clarify that for him, SC... your exchange ends on page 275 and then on page 276 the following day he sends you a pin which is at page, well at 3:28 on message time, 05:28 on the 30th of April...”
MR MNISI's associate was going to see Mr Joe Sibanyoni and sent a message indicating the meeting due to inability to meet MR MNISI.
“He was going, there you go, he was going to see Mr Joe Sibanyoni... We probably had to meet, so he was unable to meet me if I recall correctly... That is the only reason, there is no other reason he would send me that.”
MR MNISI was interested in the meeting with Mr Joe Sibanyoni only as a notification to reschedule their engagement and to resume activities afterwards.
“I was not interested per se, I mean you just cancelled our engagement that we should have went to, so just let me know how it goes, so we can go and meet. Let me know when you are done, so that we can resume the activities that we needed to do.”
MR MNISI received a TikTok video previously sent of Mr Joe Sibanyoni, which was trending and related to the launch of the Joe Sibanyoni Foundation.
“I think previously he had sent me a TikTok video of some sort of Mr Sibanyoni... He was just sending me a TikTok video, that was trending... A trending message about the launch of the Joe Sibanyoni Foundation.”
MR MNISI declared no personal interest in the Joe Sibanyoni Foundation and had never met Mr Joe Sibanyoni, only exchanged information via messages.
“I was not interested in the Joe Sibanyoni Foundation, I had no interest in matters of that nature, never met Mr Joe Sibanyoni, he was just sending me this in a similar way, I would send him articles.”
MR MNISI refers to Joe Sibanyoni as 'number one' in relation to a taxi association and taxi fraternity leadership.
“He is the president of one of the taxi associations, he is number one within the taxi fraternity as far I was concerned.”
MR MNISI was aware that Sergeant Nkosi had a relationship with Mr Joe Sibanyoni.
“And you must have known then that Sergeant Nkosi had a relationship with him?”
There were discussions involving Mr Mnisi, Sergeant Nkosi, and Joe Sibanyoni concerning meetings and communications, including references to a TikTok video and specific timing of calls on public holidays that raised concerns about urgency.
“he had had a discussion, he had sent me this, he told me he knew him”
Mr Mnisi initially could not recall discussions about Mr Sibanyoni until prompted, indicating that mentioning Joe Sibanyoni refreshed his memory about relevant matters including a TikTok video.
“But now when I point out to the fact that you do refer to Joe Sibanyoni, suddenly your memory is refreshed.”
There were three instances of communication about meetings involving Mr Sibanyoni with a TikTok video and pins indicating timing around 29 or 30 April.
“Chair, as we have seen now, there are three instances. We saw the TikTok video, we saw him sending me a pin that he is going there on the 29th or the 30th of April”
Mr Mnisi said he was concerned about a call from Mr Joe Sibanyoni at 06:30 on a public holiday, questioning the urgency of such a call at that time.
“Yes, because he tells me that Mr Joe Sibanyoni calls me at 06:30 on page 86 at the foot ... So why would someone call so early?”
Mr Mnisi expressed 100% certainty that the call from Mr Sibanyoni at 06:30 on a public holiday was a cause for concern, not just a normal call.
“One hundred percent.”
Mr Mnisi stated that if he had been told details about the meeting at 06:30, he would have listened and probably given input, but he was not informed and considered it none of his business.
“Had he told me about it, I would have listened and probably given an input, Chair, but it was none of my business.”
Mr Mnisi explained that he uses initials 'J S' for Joe Sibanyoni in informal communications because it is shorter and easier.
“It is short and it is long to write Joe Sibanyoni, it is informal communications, Chair. So, J S would have been easier for me.”
Mr Mnisi clarified that when he referred to 'number one' for Joe Sibanyoni, it was a personal understanding and not related to the Taxi Association presidency.
“No, we do not refer him to that, that is how I knew.”
Deputy Chief Dhlamini states he has never met or interacted with Mr Joe Sibanyoni, Mr Vusimuzi Matlala, or Mr Manda Mgcina for any reason.
“I have never met, interacted with Mr Joe Sibanyoni, Mr Vusimuzi Matlala, and Mr Manda Mgcina for whatsoever reasons.”
Deputy Chief Dhlamini knows Mr Joe Sibanyoni from the taxi industry due to his brother's involvement establishing SALTA but has never met or interacted with him.
“The one that I know, I have never met with him, it is Mr Joe Sibanyoni. He used to work with my brother in the taxi industry when they were establishing SALTA.”
Joe Sibanyoni was alleged to be the mastermind behind the taxi violence cases.
“At that time it was alleged that Joe Sibanyoni is the mastermind behind these cases”
The President of SANACO at the time of the taxi violence meeting was Mr Abnar Tsebe, not Mr Joe Sibanyoni.
“was Mr Sibanyoni the President of SANACO at the time ? - No not as yet. - Yes by that time I think it was Mr Abnar Tsebe”
There was an allegation that Mr Matlala had tried to kill Mr Sibanyoni.
“Page 79 of 165 allegation that Mr Matlala had tried to kill Mr Sibanyoni ?”
Sergeant Nkosi stated he communicated with both Mr Matlala and Mr Sibanyoni.
“But you were in communication with both of them ? Yes .”
A message at 2am on 6 December 2024 stated that the Special Task Force had arrived at an address awaiting results.
“You forwarded to Mr Sibanyoni a message saying: “Sure, STF have arrived at the address awaiting results.””