Mr M Nisi

Extensive communications regarding TMPD1 and Gubisi invoicing between the witness and Deputy Chief Dhlamini occur through Sergeant Nkosi, with no direct WhatsApp messages between the witness and Deputy Chief Dhlamini.

“this mode of communication between yourself and Deputy Chief Dhlamini in relation to TMPD1 and in relation to the Gubisi issues about invoicing and termination, has the same hallmarks, that you are actually having very extensive communications, but there is no sign of them on either of your phones”

Mr M Nisi denies engagement in illicit or unlawful activities with Deputy Chief Dhlamini and states the use of Sergeant Nkosi as an intermediary was for convenience due to a broken communication channel.

“I strongly disagree with the notion that we are engaged in illicit or illegal activities that are unlawful, and the major difference is that there is trace of communication directly between myself and Deputy Chief Dhlamini”

Mr M Nisi requested Deputy Chief Dhlamini's contact details to deal with TMPD1 and Gubisi invoicing matters more directly going forward.

“I requested for his contact details in order to deal with the matters moving forward, particularly on the accounts payables matter, as well as the termination letter”

There were no WhatsApp messages exchanged directly between Mr M Nisi and Deputy Chief Dhlamini relating to TMPD1 or Gubisi because Mr M Nisi did not have Deputy Chief Dhlamini's contact details.

“No, there are none because I did not have his contact details from the Gubisi invoices and I was not interested. And he would not send me any WhatsApp messages for TMPD1”

Extensive WhatsApp communications between Mr M Nisi and Deputy Chief Dhlamini, relating to TMPD1 and Gubisi, are routed only through Sergeant Nkosi.

“We see extensive WhatsApp messages in relation to TMPD1 and Gubis where you are communicating with the General, but they all got through Sergeant Nkosi”

Mr M Nisi confirms he did not agree or request WhatsApp communications to be sent to him regarding TMPD1, and distances himself from them.

“TMPD1, I did not at one point agree to have those communications. I did not at one point request any of those messages to be sent to me. So I am going to distance myself from that completely”

Mr M Nisi answered Deputy Chief Dhlamini's instruction conveyed through Sergeant Nkosi, indicating he is on top of the matter.

“Thanks, Mfowethu. I am on top of this.”

Mr M Nisi admits to huffing and puffing to delay or stop further messages from Sergeant Nkosi and Deputy Chief Dhlamini.

“the purpose was to stop this from persisting any further . I had realised that they were taking me for a fool . I did the same thing.”

Mr M Nisi wanted the messages to stop and directed this request at Sergeant Nkosi, even though he knew the messages originated from Deputy Chief Dhlamini.

“I wanted the person who was sending me the messages to stop, and that person was Sergeant Nkosi. I knew that.”

Mr M Nisi did not expect Sergeant Nkosi to forward his 'huffing and puffing' response back to Deputy Chief Dhlamini.

“I did not expect that. I did not request that.”