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Mr Sayed forwarded to General Khan details of Bertobrite, a company that bid for the SAPS fleet management tender, implying that it came from Mr Malema and that they wanted General Khan and Mr Sayed to do it.
“On 3 August 2021, Mr Sayed forwarded to General Khan details of the company Bertobrite that had bid for a tender for fleet management for SAPS. He stated that it came from Juju and said, I think he wants us to do it.”
Mr Sayed sent General Khan a voice note on 5 December 2021 reporting Juju called and things are progressing nicely and will happen for sure.
“On the 5th of December, Mr Sayed sends General Khan a voice note ... 'Juju called me now. He says that your things are coming along very, very nicely. It is moving along very rapidly. I will just give it some time, but it is going to happen for sure.'”
Mr Sayed sent a message relating to a tender for fleet management services submitted by Bertobrite to the state IT agency SITA, apparently for Juju's request.
“Mr Sayed returns a message which relates to a tender for fleet management services submitted by a company called Bertobrite to the state information technology agency SITA ... 'Juju sent me ... what does he need here, what does he need? And Mr Sayed says, I think he wants us to do it.'”
Mr Sayed forwarded details of company Bertobrite's bid for a fleet management tender for SAPS, stating it came from Mr Malema who wanted them to proceed with it.
“On 3 August 2021, Mr Sayed forwarded to General Khan details of the company Bertobrite that had bid for a tender for fleet management for SAPS. He stated that it came from Juju and said, I think he wants us to do it.”
Mr Sayed sent a voice note stating Juju called him and that things are progressing well and will happen for sure.
“On 5 September 2021, Mr Sayed sent General Khan a voice note in which he stated the following: ‘Juju called me now. He said that your things are coming along very, very nicely. It is moving along very rapidly, but just give him some time, but it is going to happen for sure.’”
On 22 September 2021, Mr Sayed sent General Khan a message of support from Mr Malema related to General Khan's disciplinary proceedings, including a claim that Juju said General Khan would never resign and the fight would end victoriously.
“On 22 September 2021, Mr Sayed sent General Khan a message of support from Mr Malema in relation to his disciplinary proceedings. ‘I forgot to tell you that Juju called me, said you will not ever resign no matter what. This is a fight and we will emerge victorious.’”
The purpose of verifying with the CFO was to ascertain whether the company names indeed came from Juju, explained by Sergeant Nkosi.
“The reason was to ascertain if indeed these names, these companies’ names did come from Juju so that the CFO could be assured of that .”
No one, including Juju, has the right to influence tenders by indicating preferred bidders, according to the interpreter's response.
“Is anybody, Juju or anybody else, entitled to influence tenders by indicating who their preferred bidders are ? ... No, they did not have that right .”