Referred to as: Musa Kawula · Mr Musa Kawula
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ADV Segels-Ncube assured Lt-Gen Sibi the commission is not pushing a narrative and referenced a withdrawn allegation concerning Mr Musa Kawula and a WhatsApp message sent.
“we are not ... you will recall that ... you indicated your displeasure ... that you were not satisfied with the withdrawal of the allegation ... that you were the person that sent the WhatsApp message ...”
General Shibiri sent one positive article about a person perceived as a menace who was arrested, specifically related to Musa Kawula.
“Yes, for the 38 years I had in the police, I never belonged to any faction. And ... I send one, one positive one to say a person whose eemed to be a menace is arrested. I think this is positive... relates to Musa Kawula.”
There were chats sent to Sergeant Nkosi about Musa Kawula around the time he was arrested.
“You will see there you send to Sergeant Nkosi about Musa Kawula. That is when he was arrested?”
Chats relate to a businessman seeking a warrant of arrest for Musa Kawula.
“You send him, Sergeant Nkosi, an article related to a businessman seeking a warrant of arrest for Musa Kawula.”
Media articles related to four themes involving generals and Musa Kawula were shared, including General Khan's disciplinary issues, General Khumalo and Masemola, Mr. Matlala and his contract, and issues about Musa Kawula's arrest or warrant.
“The media articles that I found related to, on one is the issue of General Khan and his disciplinary. Two, General Khumalo and, to a lesser extent, General Masemola. Three, Mr Matlala and his contract. Four, they relate to the arrest or warrant against Musa Kawula.”
Lieutenant-General Shibiri expresses resentment about implications that he communicated personally with Musa Kawula, denying any personal knowledge or contact with him.
“I resent implications that I phoned Mr Kawula or spoken to Mr Kawula in any way. I do not know him. I do not have his phone. I never spoken to him.”
Lieutenant-General Shibiri forwards articles to Sergeant Nkosi about Musa Kawula as part of relaying complaints and updates, including allegations of extortion against Musa Kawula.
“I was just relaying because initially I did forward him a complaint when there was an allegation of extortion. So that is why I sent those two.”