Minister Senzo Mchunu

Mr Matlala has no relationship with Minister Senzo Mchunu, has never met him, had no interactions with him, and does not know him.

“I place on record that I do not have any relationship with Minister Mchunu. I have never met Minister Mchunu and have had no interactions with him, nor have I been at any gatherings where he was present. It suffices to say that I do not know Minister Mchunu.”

Mr Mogotsi was either using Minister Senzo Mchunu’s name to swindle money from Matlala or working with him while also asking for money on the side; Matlala cannot be 100% sure.

“There is two things here which I cannot be hundred per cent sure . It is either he was using the Minister ' s name , Mr Senzo Mchunu ’ s name to swindle money from me , or he was working with him , but still he was asking money also on the side .”