Fadiel

Mr. Raphesu testified that when Advocate Ramsamy asked Mr. Fadiel about documents, he was told Fadiel had already given the documents to Chief Perumal just before the interviews started.

“when Advocate Ramsamy asked him about the documents, Mr Fadiel already told us that he gave the documents to Chief Perumal just before the interviews started”

Ramsamy was unsure where the names on the handwritten page came from, but Johnson explained the suspects list came after Dylan consulted Fadiel.

“the suspects was after Dylan had consulted Fadiel . That is how the list came about.”

Dylan has emails on his phone relevant to the names and documents that were slotted under Fadiel's door, including a chain of emails between Dylan and MS Ramsamy about these matters.

“But ask Dylan to check because he has his emails on his phone . There is an email between him , you and I , about the names as well as about the documents , the ones that were slotted under Fadiel 's door . So there was a chain email between us , he should remember .”

Mr Ramsamy cannot confirm the date of the section 27 affidavit seen but has recollections of conversations and WhatsApp messages from November 2024 relating to the 27 referral email debacle.

“I cannot confirm that. I have a recollection of a different date. I also have a recollection of a conversation between Perumal and myself, when this whole debacle of where is the 27 referral as per my email was happening, where Perumal says to me, no, the ID must check, the ID must check, referring to Advocate Johnson, because I have WhatsApps from the 13th of November where Fadiel is asking for things.”

Fadiel referred not only the section 7 referral affidavit but also referred existing dockets to IDAC, which was not understood by the witness that way.

“Fadiel did not only make a referral to us, Mr Adams ... but he referred those existing dockets to IDAC. I did not understand it that way.”