Yusuf

Mr S Hongwemp states that Yusuf informed him that General Khan wished to speak to him telephonically, but Hongwemp refused to take the call.

“Yusuf stated that someone wished to speak to me without explaining further and he insisted on calling this person to speak to me telephonically. I asked who is this person was. They then disclosed the name of this individual as General Khan. I refused and I informed them that I did not wish to take the call.”

During the interaction, Yusuf called General Khan on the phone despite Hongwemp's refusal to take the call, which was answered as a video call by General Khan.

“During this interaction, Yusuf moved his chair closer to mine and proceeded to call this person. As the phone was already ringing in, the call was answered and it was General Khan. ... And it was then when I saw this face that I know this face on pictures. ... It was a video call.”

Hongwemp explicitly states that he did not agree to have the conversation with General Khan and told Yusuf not to call him.

“No, I did tell him that I do not want. ... While he was calling, I am telling him, no, no, do not call. We can either make other ways and talk if there is a way, but I do not want a phone call. And I tell him that I do not like phone calls.”

Yusuf reassured Hongwemp that they would help with the phones and track any phone calls, promising assistance if he were scared of phone calls.

“He then explains to me, do not worry, brother, we will help you with the phones. If you are scared of phone calls and anything, do not worry. We will help with your phone. Your phone will be tracking someone, you are making a phone call. All this nonsense.”

A muscular man agreed to give information about a helicopter in a USB on Friday in Sandton but spoke very fast and unclearly, making it hard to list details.

“He only agreed that I have one and that he would package it in a USB for me and then give it to me on Friday. But this one, because of I was tired of listening to him, to be honest. I cannot recall exactly the words he was saying, but he was speaking again fast and very, a lot of things that I could not even listen to.”

Meeting planned to include Imran, Yusuf, and General Khan to discuss helicopter information in Sandton.

“The idea of the meeting was going to meet, I was supposed to meet Imran, Yusuf and Khan. That is how the meeting was going to be on that Friday, had I went to that meeting.”

Yusuf requested Mrs. Hongwe's contact details, which she refused, suspecting they might manipulate the location reflected on her phone and attempted to make her phone un-hackable.

“Yusuf requested my contact details, which I refused to provide. He was persistent, stating that they could change the location reflected on my phone. I declined this offer. It may also be important to note that my phone remained in the car throughout the meeting as I was apprehensive that it could be hacked.”

Yusuf promised to make Mrs. Hongwe's phone un-hackable and change phone location to countries like Brazil and Paris to prevent tracking.

“He ... said, no, if you are scared of us, we will not do anything. Actually, we will help you. We will make your phone un-hackable. When one tries to check it, it will reflect in Brazil, it will reflect in Paris, mention other countries while you are here in South Africa. That was the promise. He even mentioned that they would work on the SIM card in the phone if I give them my number, they would help me with that.”